ReginaldDrax

Hi Marcus,

All of that sounds good, and thanks for keeping me informed.

If possible, I'd like to see the raw stats data you collect - analysing it would be good practise for me.

Unfortunately, the best that can be provided are the collected data and not raw data.

Ok, what do you mean by collected data?

I just mean that the data that is collected is translated into the tables and charts.

That sounds interesting, tell me more.

For example, you can see https://strangerthings.fandom.com/wiki/Will_Byers on the right side, there is a module that says "Stranger Things Wiki needs your help!". When you click "Code Red" a pop up appears which shows pages that could use some focus on editing.

Yes, I like that - I'd be happy to see it on the WW wiki.

Hey, unfortunately the deadline for the experiment was a few days ago but we can still get the focus module implemented regardless if you'd like.

Hi Antonio,

Thanks for getting in touch, we're looking forward to working with you and Timeshade.

Reggie

Hi,

I was just reading about the Official Community Partnership Program and I'd like to talk to someone at fandom about becoming an Official Wiki.

This seems to be quite new, is there a process yet?

Hello?

Hi TimeShade,

Thanks for letting me know. I'm not really a Discord user at the moment but I'll make a note of it.

Reggie

Hi,

Yes, i read the update but thanks for the headsup, appreciated.

The update describes the process but doesnt give any indication of a timeline. Do you have a feeling for when tbis will have an impact on the Westworld wiki?

At the moment, there isn't a clear timeline since they want to ensure everything is done right. More details will be revealed down the road.

That sounds sensible - cheers

Hello Marcus,

Thanks for your message.

I've not heard of a Wiki Manager before. Are you Fandom staff? What do you see as your role at Westworld wiki?

I'm a part time contractor for Fandom. So if you encounter issues with coding, or there's a dispute that may need mediating, or need help with designs, you can shoot me a message basically I'm like on site support.

Ok, thank you.

We're basically waiting until next year and season 3 at the moment. So activity here is low and concerned with vandalism and the new season cast list.

I'm not sure what this change would add, especially as Ethnicity takes up less space (as a info box label) than Race & Nationality.

Thanks for your reply.

I just thought it would be more consistent with it's usual contents.

For most, if not all characters, we can only determine their races and nationalities based on their names, physical appearances, languages, accents, and what we know about their actors. But we can't determine which precise ethnic groups they belong to or self-identify with.

And I'm not sure human ethnicities apply to hosts, or if the hosts should be considered as an ethnic group in their own right.

Also, on several pages, the "Ethnicity" is inaccurate or unsupported, such as

• Clementine Pennyfeather - the ethnicity of Old Clem is listed as Armenian, which is unsupported. There're no evidence the ethnicity of the character is the same as that of the actress.

• Felix Lutz - the ethnicity of Felix Lutz is listed as Chinese-American (Hong Kong), which is unsupported. In Akane No Mai, he only said he's "from Hong Kong". It doesn't really indicate his ethnicity.

• Kissy -  the ethnicity of Kissy is listed as Native American, which is inaccurate. In The Original, the bartender refered to Kissy as "half cornhusker".

• Lawrence's Wife - the ethnicity of Lawrence's Wife is listed as Spanish American, which is unsupported. There're no evidence she's Spanish or American.

I just think that "Ethnicity" is kind of ambiguous. But if no one else feels this way, then I'm ok with it.

"Age" in Infobox/Character is also kind of ambiguous when it's used for host characters.

Does it mean how long the host has been created, or the age the host was built to represent?

I'd say that age, Ethnicity, gender and pretty much every other human characteristic, really mean Apparent Age, etc, when applied to a host. I'd say that these are all valid observations though.

We don't make that point anywhere in the wiki, we probably should. How would this be best done?

Nice catch with Kissy, please feel free to remove or amend inaccuracies and unsupported statements when you see them.

Hi,

Nice catch.

Yes, our episode titles must match those used by HBO. I'll change that episode name now.

Thanks

Hi there,

Thanks for your message.

I didn't create the category, as far as I know, so it may well contain random characters. To be honest, it's not clear which characters are black and white hats - I started out thinking that Dolores, for instance, was good people but I'm not so sure now.

It's excellent to see contributions by the way, and I'll become more active myself as season three gets closer.

Please don't hesitate to ask if you need a hand.

Hi, thanks for your reply.

It's true the characters in this category are viewed by many to be morally reprehensible.

But as far as I can tell, a protagonist is the leading character of a story, and an antagonist is the character in a story who is against the protagonist. Whether a character is black hat or white hat, and whether a character is likeable or not, are irrelevent.

Maybe this category should be renamed into "Category:Villains". But the problem remains, the question of which character is a villain in this series, is still largely decided by the personal feelings of the audiences rather than widely accepted ethical standards - if there are any concerning the scenario of a robot uprising.

Just a thought.

P.S. I've always thought of Dolores as an antihero.

> antihero

She really is. I suspect that, ultimately, she'll be completely beyond any redemption - her last moment of tenderness was with Teddy - and she certainly seems to have gotten rid of any sentiment when dealing with humans.

To be honest, I'm really confused as to why Dolores is the only main character widely disliked by the audiences. 

Dolores, Maeve, Bernard and Akecheta have all controlled other hosts to do their bidding, decommissioned other hosts when it suited them, and except Akecheta they have all killed humans to further their goals, with seemingly no remorse.

And it's a lot to ask for any host to be sentimental toward humans when they're in hostile territory where they could get killed by any human at any second.

Maybe I'm missing something here. I would like to get some opinions on this.

Dolores is played by an attractive, intelligent, and outspoken young woman. Some men seem to have a lot of trouble with these things.

Actors often get a lot of hassle and their characters a lot of hate. Sarah Wayne Callies, Lori from The Walking Dead, and more recently Brie Larsen who plays Captain Marvel in the MCU. Some men, a lot of men I suspect, don't appear to like strong women.

Misogyny, that's what I think the reason is.

Thanks, that's a great explanation.

Though I suspect speciesism may also has a part in it. If Dolores is a human fighting robots instead of a robot fighting humans, she wouldn't be so disliked (e.g. Sarah Connor from The Terminator and Trinity from The Matrix).